08 Aug 2011 10:03
Reply to This is by brolstan
The rankings are a fair reflection of how a team has performed in the previous 12 months - the last time England was ranked no.1 was 2003 - and we all know how England like to think a series win every now and then makes them no.1 in the cricket.
08 Aug 2011 10:38
no different to when they lose and England think they need a new captain/opening batsman/bowler/team.
08 Aug 2011 19:28
> no different to when they lose and England think they need
That's the thinking of the 80's and 90's. I think English cricket, and its supporters, have moved on a great deal since then.
09 Aug 2011 03:01
English cricket has definitely moved on from the 80s and 90s but during the time that Australia has been captained by Steve Waugh and Ricky Ponting (with a couple of cameos from Adam Gilchrist) England has had ten different test captains.
09 Aug 2011 07:23
> during the time that Australia has been captained
After Steve Waugh took over, England had Nasser Hussain from 1999-2003. He then resigned after Michael Vaughan's successful stint as ODI captain, and Vaughan led the team until 2008, where injury finally ended his career. He was replaced by Kevin Pietersen for a short lived, ill-fated tenure, where a discipline issue caused his sacking, after which Andrew Strauss replaced him and has remained ever since. Flintoff, Trescothick, Cook and perhaps 1 or 2 others have also captained the side when others have been injured, but generally, England's test match captaincy over the last 10-12 years has been pretty settled. In fact, if he had remained fit and in form, there is every chance that Michael Vaughan would still be in charge even now.
09 Aug 2011 11:23
It's still a lot of different captains, whether through injury, form or experimentation.
09 Aug 2011 18:07
> It's still a lot of different captains, whether through
Oh yeah of course it is. But what does suggest is that Australia were very lucky to have successive captains in Steve Waugh and Ricky Ponting that managed to remain fit for the vast majority of their tenures.
But my response was more to Raistlin's point of English crickets desire to constantly chop and change their leadership. The changes that have been made in the last decade or so have for the most part been forced on them through resignations.
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11 Aug 2011 03:10
Reply to Re: arghhh by Brolstan
> series... lets get over their and train, play a few
Amateur sides ? I doubt that playing amateur sides from the second tier, provincial "Heartlands" competition is any sort of preparation for a World Cup.
11 Aug 2011 03:12
Reply to lol.... by Tracy!
> but there is a difference....the all blacks play better
And we do everything else better - plus we've won twice as many WC's as the mighty ABs.
11 Aug 2011 03:14
Reply to lol.... by Tracy!
11 Aug 2011 03:21
Reply to Oh by Brolstan
well I do know that most kiwis love to beat the ozzies more than anyone or anything lol....but in this case, and this time, I know we are all going to enjoy the match between england and us even more so......lol....that black strip, haley westenra ....lol......yeah....i know the blacks are ready for the english side 1 ; )
It will be a good game for sure!!!
11 Aug 2011 03:28