02 Apr 2012 15:43
You've presented refugees as a problem for
you've claimed that these refugees bring crime to
I'll get back to this in a couple hours with
02 Apr 2012 16:33
> No I haven't. What BS is this. Please say in which post I mentioned that. Don't confuse me with raistlin or his likes.
Sorry, where'd i say this? please dont confuse me with your own self-delusion.
02 Apr 2012 17:36
I am simply curious what you would think. That's all. It's a difficult issue to come to terms with, you sound like you've thought about the topic, I'd like to hear the thoughts. No hidden agenda.
02 Apr 2012 17:42
> I'll get back to this in a couple hours with
You get one chance to clarify whatever you meant. You get this benefit of doubt due to your track record of poor proficiency in English.
02 Apr 2012 18:58
> You get one chance to clarify whatever you meant.
For people who have more knowledge on the subject it is quite clear but I'll inform you :)
A refugee doesn't mean he can't be violent, criminal or with hate. It has been proven over and over again that amongst refugees there are also criminals, violent people and hatefull people. Soem do flee their own country because the have committed warcrimes, some have a different agenda, some are just criminal, some are hatefull. And yes when they come as a refugee to our continent it is a problem. I know this, I interviewed and dealed with hundreds of people who came to our country as a refugee. Not all of them had good intentions.
So I never said and I'll qoute you:
02 Apr 2012 19:08
You didn't use that exact wording. You said:
02 Apr 2012 19:57
Nice try to add a little bit of nuance there; but my statement still stands.
You claimed1 that refugees bring crime to our streets. You just confirmed what I stated; it's not that hard to understand.
Je kan recht lullen wat krom is, maar je uitspraken staan op zichzelf.
02 Apr 2012 20:19
I'm implying nothing, you are drawing the false conclusions. If you had paid any attention to my posts you would have known I wasn't implying anything you accuse me off. Your lack of comprehension or you just trolling? Who know's. The fact is you can't back anything up. And you also have nothing really serious to ad here. Go figure.
03 Apr 2012 01:04
by definition here, when they try to enter the country via illegal means,
I didnt make the laws.
03 Apr 2012 02:08
Also he needs to learn the difference between a refugee and an illegal immigrant. Criminals escaping punishment or war criminals are not refugees by definition and would be denied such status because of their exploits. It suprises me hugely that somebody that claims to work in some capacity with refugees would make this glaring, basic error.
03 Apr 2012 15:31
The laws of my country are quite clear. When a foreigner is illegal her the question him. During that questioning they ask him if he wants to ask for assylum. If he does he is placed under the care of an organisation that provides him shelter, money, legal assitence and he gets questioned by a special bureau that will investigate if his assylum application is rightfull. If you don't ask for assylum you go straight to jail.
03 Apr 2012 22:13
I misunderstood your wording as asking for a definition of a solution. Perhaps I was a little too high on the mood of bringing someone down a peg or two over a few comments. :p I did offer my opinion on what would be a starting point of a solution here and here in case you missed it. Basically that the problem is not innate to the African people, but rather resides in the local policies and crippling yet undeclared sanctions that prevent the epidemiological and economic transition towards a more sustainable model.