Hot chicks dancing!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-a8dAHDQoo&feature=youtu.be

But really the message is more important. Watch the WHOLE vid.
This vid DOES belong to this board: http://www.stopthetraffik.org/language.aspx

Human trafficking is a serious subject that should be discussed here.

if human trafficking is what you wish to discuss, it definitely belongs here. However, this was not the case with the previous poster. He wanted to discuss which of the girls was the hottest or the best dancer.

Now, what exactly do you wish us to discuss on the issue of human trafficking? I think we are all agreed that it is a crime.

My apologies to Admin Hikari.
My intention was not really to discuss which of the ladies look hottest but human trafficking.

Jack

So far, I have to see any discussing taking place.

At the moment we are discussing about discussion.

You have to be patient. with boards like these it may take some time before people start talking.
Even if they did not, that's ok too.

No pressure ? =)

Still being facetious?

What we should discuss is why you still non fair trade chocolate, you're in fact supporting human traficking. You are part of a crime ;)

> What we should discuss is why you still non fair trade
> chocolate, you're in fact supporting human traficking. You
> are part of a crime ;)

Due to many factors, some experts predict that within 20 years time chocolate will be as expensive as gold due to supply shortages.

how buying non fairtrade chocolate might enable problems such as child labour or exploitation, but what has it got to do with human trafficking?

And is everything you buy 100% morally indubitable? Nothing you've ever purchased was made under bad working conditions, with childlabour or is the product of exploitation? I highly doubt that and the same goes for everyone I know. You can try to be an environmentally and socially conscious consumer, but you won't always succeed.

So, it's pretty safe to say that most every person in the 'West' is somehow 'part of the problem'. I'd be interested in hearing your suggestions or thoughts on how to change a few of these issues.

If anybody seriously thinks they are doing the world a huge favour because they were amiable to a marketing program that portrayed their product as "more responsible" than another then I guess that they have priortised the world's problems in order of importance and vastly overestimated the difference that they are making. Unless of course that "fair trade" product was shipped to the store without using any vehicles that pollute the earth and that the store that it was purchased from is completely ethical and beyond reproach in anyway - and beyond this we have to be wary that if a "fair trade" product becomes too popular that it becomes increasingly difficult for that company to adhere to the standards that qualify it as "fair trade".
Berating somebody because they are eating a mass-produced product whilst you cringe through some inferior-tasting crud that makes you feel important because the recycled packaging boosts your feeling of self-importance is somewhat hypocritical and short-sighted. Not eating chocolate at all would be more responsible - and I'm pretty sure that the cigarettes and alcohol that you have purchase over the years weren't sold by "fair trade" companies.
When you can demonstrate that you don't make any compromises in your daily life that have an impact on your environment and that your "one week a year building schools" in developing countries is anything other than a lie or a self-serving token effort - then I might begin to believe that their is any sincerity or substance in your character.

> i seriously hope you are kidding convict or you need
> locking up with the other 50% of this site

Obviously a Pom that would lock up someone for a comment as easily as ship them halfway round the world for stealing a loaf of bread or for being Irish. btw - free settlers outnumbered convicts in the first decade of two and this country was inhabited by people for 40 000 years before the British arrived and arrogantly declared it "Terra Nullius" - despite the fact that they often had to kill quite a few people before declaring that these very people weren't actually people but a part of the natural flora and fauna - no more important or entitled to any rights than a gum tree or a wombat.

The difference between the Australians that are descendant from the early British settlers and the British of today that still see us as penal colony is 200 years of mistakes and reflections that made us less like the first Brits that were here so much so that we were able to see that being "British" wasn't something to aspire to and that apologising for the atrocities of our grandparent's grandparents was the only logical and decent thing to do.

So I guess your mind's eye version of an Australian is someone just like you with a sun tan that has learned from their mistakes .

As if this problem is just to be found in The Netherlands... -_-'

Yes, because criminalizing such endeavors would eradicate the problem. If anything, the liberal approach The Netherlands used to have (most of the Red Light District in Amsterdam was closed down due to silly Christian puritans in charge) was the correct way of going against such atrocities. At least there is some form of social control in the prostitution now, next to other important aspects (for both worker and client) like health inspections.

Criminalizing it will only make the situation for the workers even worse.

I wish the police good luck on eradicating one of the oldest professions on Earth.

Prostitutes and customers also have many more technological options these days, you know?

> how buying non fairtrade chocolate might enable problems
> such as child labour or exploitation, but what has it got
> to do with human trafficking?

If you don't read the material given to you by the links it has no use discussing it with you. Inform yourself and than come back and discuss :)

> And is everything you buy 100% morally indubitable?
> Nothing you've ever purchased was made under bad working
> conditions, with childlabour or is the product of
> exploitation? I highly doubt that and the same goes for
> everyone I know. You can try to be an environmentally and
> socially conscious consumer, but you won't always succeed.

Does this mean you don't have to try?

> So, it's pretty safe to say that most every person in the
> 'West' is somehow 'part of the problem'. I'd be interested
> in hearing your suggestions or thoughts on how to change
> a few of these issues.

Exactly and just a fraction is trying to change the situation. The sollutions is that insted of a fraction, most people should do something about it. So are you willing to do something about it?