Board archive Politics / Society / Religion: February 2008: Extraordinary rendition
24 Feb 2008 20:04 Extraordinary rendition
These are two links explaining this policy that was inacted during the Clinton administration. The first being a short documentary detailing the accounts of two people that had to endure the concequences of Extraordinary Rendition.
Torture as a means to gain information is, to say the least, a delicate subject up for debate. There are several different outlooks to the argument, whether it is, saving lives, harm to the wrongly accused, or the extraction of truth as opposed to coerced confessions. Detaining prisoners without charge is unconstitutional, detaining prisoners without counsel is unconstitutional, torture of prisoners to extract information is unconstitutional. Apparently, our government agrees with that, so much so, that we put a policy in place for suspects to be moved to other countries to be tortured, interrogated and detained without rights.
"Should any American soldier be so base and infamous as to injure any [prisoner]. . . I do most earnestly enjoin you to bring him to such severe and exemplary punishment as the enormity of the crime may require. Should it extend to death itself, it will not be disproportional to its guilt at such a time and in such a cause... for by such conduct they bring shame, disgrace and ruin to themselves and their country."
24 Feb 2008 20:34 re
I realize it may sound trite, but I just watched a movie about this topic.
24 Feb 2008 23:48 Rendition
That is the same way I found out about the subject. It wasn't really the movie, but the documentary I linked was on the DVD in the special features, so I decided to dig a little deeper on the subject. At it's core, this policy is promoting kidnapping, torture and overall lawlessness. I guess the constitution and the laws of the United States don't apply to the CIA.
25 Feb 2008 00:13 President Bush and Torture
25 Feb 2008 20:04 Its been torture having Bush as Pres.
its enough just having that dickweed around.
26 Feb 2008 10:37 blah
The administration deceived the people about Iraq and Bush tried to do it again concerning Iran. Cheney and Rumsfeld probably gave the orders to the fine men and women in Abu Graib and Guantanamo, and Karl Rove outed Valerie Wilson as an undercover CIA operative. He has already left but should be tried for treason.
And they tried to impeach Clinton over a blowjob. *mumbles*
26 Feb 2008 21:09 Taxi the the Dark Side
It just won the oscar for "Best documentary of the year." It's pretty much outlines the US policies of Extraordinary Rendition and extreme interrogation tactics. i.e. torture. Check it out. You won't be happy, but it's def worth a look. I dled it from isohunt.com.
26 Feb 2008 21:09 to the darkside
oooops my bad